Bohart Guest House
Renewable Energy System
 

         AgSolutions Boiler, Equipped with the  Kagi Burner
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

        200k btu model, installed Feb 2006

First of all, the Tarm wood-fired boiler needed far too much attention and was removed after a year.  There is a lot of debate in the eastern US about emissions from wood-fired boilers and I agree they are smoky.  Once they are up to optimal burn temperature there is no visible smoke coming from the stack, but getting them up to temperature proved to be very tricky and smoky.  they are supposed to turn off and on automatically and do so cleanly, but as the smothered fire is fed air it spews smoke until the flame catches then continues to smoke for another 2-5 minutes until it comes up to temperature. 

My review of the AgSolutions Boiler equipped with the Kagi Burner:  The burner is great, the company selling the boiler (which includes the burner) is problematic.  Even though AgSolutions promises that this unit is sold 'vegetable oil ready' it is far from true.  Even after asking AgSolutions the question in multiple formats, I was assured that I would have no problems running the unit in an unheated garage in Montana.  I turned out to be a guinea pig.  The owner of the company, Anthony in Kentucy, will not respond even to constructive criticism and chooses to just keep selling units complete with false promises and creating work for his service men.  The man in charge of the northwest is great but even with his endless support I have spent over 200 hours hovering over this unit in the last 10 months alone.  At this point, Feb 2007, the unit is fully operational in my climate and in my unheated garage.

I will say that the burner manufacturer, Kagi Waste Oil Boilers in Spokane, is quick with advice and service, and is fully revealing of the challenges presented by burning vegoil in their burner.  They have a burner in use on vegoil and it works great.  See below for what is needed to run this burner on straight vegetable oil.  If you go into this KNOWING that you need to make some modifications to the burner then you'll be fine.  For me, the hard thinig to swallow was being promised it was ready to run on vegoil, then finding out in the first cold snap (when you are needing a lot of heat) that it needs modifications.  I burned a lot of natural gas in my backup boiler while I was working to modify the burner.  Had I known what was required to use vegoil, I would have done it from the beginning and saved a lot of maintenance and headaches. 

 

The main problem areas are:

Fuel heating: 

The burner's fuel lines and fuel pump are not heated, which is a task not easily accomplished due to the odd shape of the fuel pump and the tight space surrounding it.  The burner manufacturer in Spokane has some prototype fuel pump heaters (custom cup-shaped aluminum blocks with water channels that hug the pump and fuel regulator) and they will sell them.  I tried heat tape but they type I used did not solve the problem (most heat tape is self-regulating and stops heating when in contact with warmth).  So the addition of hot water heat is the only way to keep the fuel flowing, as the pump must be 130-140F to prevent coagulation of animal fats and hydrogenated oils which are almost always present in used cooking oil.  The copper fuel line from the pump to the fuel regulator must also be heated. 
    The aluminum heat block inside the burner uses about 300 watts of electricity and is thermostatically controlled to achieve a 170F block temperature (adjustable to lower temps for other fuels), so I added hot water heat fin tube below the burner and built a foam cap for the whole front of the boiler.  There is a burner manufacturer out there that uses hot water heat to do the job, but I stumbled onto them after I purchased my boiler and now cannot locate them. 
 

Air Compressor:

Only general recommendations for air compressors were given, and no information about how to avoid or mitigate water condensation problems.  The burner uses compressed air to pull the fuel from the nozzle to create the flame, and the air compressor is not sold with the unit; it must be purchased separately.  I started out with what I had, a Costco/Coleman compressor which was noisy and used a lot of electricity.  After much review I purchased a small Makita 700 and added a second air tank to increase cycle time.  It is very quiet and efficient.
    After getting the right compressor, the problem of condensation was tackled by locating the unit between the boiler and the boiler's fuel tank, a 55-gal drum on its side, both good sources of waste heat.  The compressor area was then insulated but condensation continues to build up so I drain the tank weekly when it's cold to keep the air lines from freezing up, and monthly in the summer just to keep the water from building up in the tank. 


Insulation:

The boiler is shipped with the sheet metal off, and some yellow insulation is supplied to be installed between the barrel and the sheet metal, but they don't give you nearly enough. 
 

Information:

There are quite a few handy tools you will need to work on this baby, but they aren't listed in the manuals.  To clean the boiler heat tubes, a hard to find 2" wire brush is needed, but AgSolutions is resistant to supplying that $3 item.  There is no maintenance schedule, so you'll figure out why the boiler is not working after it goes down, and you may or may not replace the correct items first.  Usually it is the O-rings, $.20 items that are also not supplied or listed by size so you have to take the nozzle to the hardware store and try to determine what size it was before it wore out.  There is also a $1 fuel pump cup gasket that they don't include spares of, and you have to get that from Kagi or you service rep.  I wore mine out from removing the fuel cup too many times to clean out the thickened oils, and was instructed by AgSolutions to use silicon to make a gasket, then spent the next month cleaning dried silicon goobers out of the flame cone and small oil channels in the heat block.  To do that I found out you need an auto O2 sensor removal socket and an impact driver, then I got oil inside the electronics box which is unavoidabe and the oil got up into the circuit board and fried that up so the boiler sat cold for 4 days during a below zero weather cycle so the natural gas boiler had to take over and waste a bunch of fuel.
    That's about how it goes until you've practically disassembled the entire thing and don't have to call your service rep anymore because you ARE a service rep by then.  Again, if you equip the burner to run in cold temps then you'll do far FAR less maintenance, and maintenance is what wears out the gaskets and O-rings.

 

I have overcome most of the challenges but beware that you should ask for the cold climate retrofit.  All attempts on my part of offering to help AgSolutions create such a kit and a special section to the owners manual have gone unanswered, while Kagi is much more responsive.  So while I believe in the basic quality of the equipment it should be known that it is up to you and the service representative to make it work.  It's certainly not rocket science but almost all of this hassle is avoidable and it's frustrating that the company which collected your $6000 doesn't care to avoid the hassle.  It certainly costs them to deal with you when you've got them on the phone everyday so go figure.  Some people like to stay behind the wave and then wonder why life is hard.  I would highly recommend getting your service directly from Kagi, which is great. 

I would be glad to package up the necessary equipment and information, as long as I can fit it in to my other 4 renewable energy jobs. 

 

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